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Marita Hansen
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Quote: dancingsue, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 09:35Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 00:22But my biggest bugbear is stories written in the first person (I cringe when I get these). Last year I bougt a book by one of my favourite authors from TRADEME cheap, and when I got it I was so disappointed to find out she had written it in the first person (she doesn't usually do this). I haven't read it yet because of this. The only time I don't mind it being used is in the prologue (when it gives the reader a bit of background to the story. I think this is perfectly fine.) But I'm being general here, because on the rare occassion on youwriteon I have enjoyed a first person story because the writing is so good. Ciao, Marita. Then I hope you don't get any of mine to review. Perhaps you should reject the assignment on the grounds you are prejudiced - my current story has two first person povs, which I'd guess is your worst nightmare! I like to experiment and find first person is a good way to wriggle under the character's skin. I do write in 3rd, but I have to force myself. I read the first few paragraphs of all assignments and only reject if there is nothing to pull me on. Take Spinebender Unleashed - who would put it down? If the fantasy is good and something I can believe, you've got me. I rarely reject an assigment, and have only ever given out a 2 once, and it wasn't for a first person story (I haven't given out a 1 because they are the rare ones I flick). My dislike of 1st person stories is just a generalisation. As said before, I have read some first person stories on youwriteon that have been good (and have marked accordingly). I have also read one outside author (I won't name her, as she gets trashed on this website a lot) and I liked her first book too. So Sulcus and Dancingsue, if I get one of your stories I will read it and mark it according to skill and concept. I have never gotten your stories before, so I have no idea how you write. Maybe I should give a freewill, because you've perked my interest now. Haere Ra, Marita.
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sulcus
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Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 11:56Quote: dancingsue, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 09:35Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 00:22But my biggest bugbear is stories written in the first person (I cringe when I get these). Last year I bougt a book by one of my favourite authors from TRADEME cheap, and when I got it I was so disappointed to find out she had written it in the first person (she doesn't usually do this). I haven't read it yet because of this. The only time I don't mind it being used is in the prologue (when it gives the reader a bit of background to the story. I think this is perfectly fine.) But I'm being general here, because on the rare occassion on youwriteon I have enjoyed a first person story because the writing is so good. Ciao, Marita. Then I hope you don't get any of mine to review. Perhaps you should reject the assignment on the grounds you are prejudiced - my current story has two first person povs, which I'd guess is your worst nightmare! I like to experiment and find first person is a good way to wriggle under the character's skin. I do write in 3rd, but I have to force myself. I read the first few paragraphs of all assignments and only reject if there is nothing to pull me on. Take Spinebender Unleashed - who would put it down? If the fantasy is good and something I can believe, you've got me. I rarely reject an assigment, and have only ever given out a 2 once, and it wasn't for a first person story (I haven't given out a 1 because they are the rare ones I flick). My dislike of 1st person stories is just a generalisation. As said before, I have read some first person stories on youwriteon that have been good (and have marked accordingly). I have also read one outside author (I won't name her, as she gets trashed on this website a lot) and I liked her first book too. So Sulcus and Dancingsue, if I get one of your stories I will read it and mark it according to skill and concept. I have never gotten your stories before, so I have no idea how you write. Maybe I should give a freewill, because you've perked my interest now. Haere Ra, Marita. and you've perked mine. I haven't clogged any female authors, only Martin Amis who deserves it. Oh no wait, I've just figured it out, you're referring to La Grande Dame des lettres Stephanie Meyer - I haven't read any of hers but I haven't laid into her either.
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"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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Marita Hansen
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Quote: sulcus, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 12:44Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 11:56Quote: dancingsue, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 09:35Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 00:22But my biggest bugbear is stories written in the first person (I cringe when I get these). Last year I bougt a book by one of my favourite authors from TRADEME cheap, and when I got it I was so disappointed to find out she had written it in the first person (she doesn't usually do this). I haven't read it yet because of this. The only time I don't mind it being used is in the prologue (when it gives the reader a bit of background to the story. I think this is perfectly fine.) But I'm being general here, because on the rare occassion on youwriteon I have enjoyed a first person story because the writing is so good. Ciao, Marita. Then I hope you don't get any of mine to review. Perhaps you should reject the assignment on the grounds you are prejudiced - my current story has two first person povs, which I'd guess is your worst nightmare! I like to experiment and find first person is a good way to wriggle under the character's skin. I do write in 3rd, but I have to force myself. I read the first few paragraphs of all assignments and only reject if there is nothing to pull me on. Take Spinebender Unleashed - who would put it down? If the fantasy is good and something I can believe, you've got me. I rarely reject an assigment, and have only ever given out a 2 once, and it wasn't for a first person story (I haven't given out a 1 because they are the rare ones I flick). My dislike of 1st person stories is just a generalisation. As said before, I have read some first person stories on youwriteon that have been good (and have marked accordingly). I have also read one outside author (I won't name her, as she gets trashed on this website a lot) and I liked her first book too. So Sulcus and Dancingsue, if I get one of your stories I will read it and mark it according to skill and concept. I have never gotten your stories before, so I have no idea how you write. Maybe I should give a freewill, because you've perked my interest now. Haere Ra, Marita. and you've perked mine. I haven't clogged any female authors, only Martin Amis who deserves it. Oh no wait, I've just figured it out, you're referring to La Grande Dame des lettres Stephanie Meyer - I haven't read any of hers but I haven't laid into her either. I don't know who Martin Amis is.
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Marita Hansen
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Sulcus, I liked your comment in your bio: You know you're a writer when... Oh you just damn well know. You know when you're an author when you get a royalty cheque or an advance. I'm an artist, but want to be an author. Maybe after I get the writing bug out of me (I doubt it), then I can start to enjoy making art again (which I will eventually).
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Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 13:09Quote: sulcus, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 12:44Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 11:56Quote: dancingsue, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 09:35Quote: Marita Hansen, Thursday, 11 Mar 2010 00:22 I don't know who Martin Amis is. Keep it that way I'd advise
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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I write fantasy, sword and sorcery who done its, and am not about to take myself too seriously, because I do it for the fun of it. I will read damn near anything except Chick lit, and stories about abusive relationships. I try to read and review anything that comes my way, though sometimes I run out of time. Long working days and kids doing college work on the computer at home. I just want to say that I understand that the area I write in is pretty specialised and that sometimes a reviewer cannot come to terms with the genre. 
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Lin Lee Liu
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Morena Marita,
I'd like you to go a bit deeper into what it is about first person that you generally don't like. I've heard other people say the same thing but haven't worked out why.
I'd like to run my theory past you though.
Since you write YA fiction I'm guessing you've been reading quite a bit of it. And since you've been reading quite a bit of it, you've come across a LOT of teenage voices written from first person POV which, over the course of an entire novel, get pretty annoying.
My theory is that you've become sick of these voices and now associate the voice with first person.
How's that? Am I right or wrong?
But voice and person are two different things.
I just fell in love with a novel written in first person: Notes On A Scandal by Zoe Heller. With an unreliable narrator, first person was exactly the right choice for the plot and could not have worked any other way.
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Marita Hansen
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Quote: Lin Lee Liu, Friday, 12 Mar 2010 21:45Morena Marita, I'd like you to go a bit deeper into what it is about first person that you generally don't like. I've heard other people say the same thing but haven't worked out why. I'd like to run my theory past you though. Since you write YA fiction I'm guessing you've been reading quite a bit of it. And since you've been reading quite a bit of it, you've come across a LOT of teenage voices written from first person POV which, over the course of an entire novel, get pretty annoying. My theory is that you've become sick of these voices and now associate the voice with first person. How's that? Am I right or wrong? But voice and person are two different things. I just fell in love with a novel written in first person: Notes On A Scandal by Zoe Heller. With an unreliable narrator, first person was exactly the right choice for the plot and could not have worked any other way. Hi Lin Lee, No, I actually read a lot of paranormal adult stories (anything to do with mythology). I also like religious mysteries. I used to read a lot of teenage novels (Buffy series mainly) in the past, which are not written in the first person. When I was a teenager I loved Stephen King's stories. The only first person teenage novel I've read was Meyer's "Twilight," and I actually liked it (don't bag on me for this, you like Coro:lol  ). A first person book must always get the main character right, because no matter how great the other characters are, if the reader doesn't click with the main character in a 1st person story, they will stop reading it. But, overall I think what I find is that I like to be on the outside looking in when I read stories, like in a movie. I am a very visual person, and with 1st person novels they cut down on what I can see. You're just looking through their eyes and feeling what they feel, not a whole raft of characters. When I write, I write it in the sense of how I would like to see a scene played out on screen. I think it is the artist in me. But as said before in previous messages, I have occassionally enjoyed a first person story. How many times have we seen in reviews when someone has said, "I don't normally read this genre/type of story, but I really liked it..." Good writing will be recognised no matter what genre, style, etc. it is in. Marita.
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Lin Lee Liu
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Ah okay. That makes more sense to me.
I already know you're a Twilight fan because of another thread.
To clarify, I wouldn't say I'm a Coronation Street fan. I grew up with it. It was on the family telly every evening and the characters are more like old neighbours from my childhood.
I haven't watched the show in three or four years and I don't miss it.
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fantasy readers/werewolf lovers: do you exist?
11 Mar 2010, 11:56
