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flamenca
 12 Dec 2010, 18:43 #107276 Reply To Post
Zeno Agency has opened for subs until the end of the year.
I've been lucky so far as they've asked for 50 pages and a synopsis in response to my query last week.
www.zenoagency.com
perrybond
 21 Dec 2010, 12:47 #107575 Reply To Post
Thanks for the heads up.

Seem an efficient bunch. Only took eight days for a very polite rejection
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sulcus
 21 Dec 2010, 22:02 #107590 Reply To Post
I'm really surprised there seem to be agencies for genres - I can understand a genre specialist within a large agency, but an agency that caters only to limited genres blows my mind.
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KLove
 28 Dec 2010, 19:29 #107749 Reply To Post
Go on, Sulcus, tell us why it blows your mind. I'm intrigued...
Temperance
 28 Dec 2010, 22:04 #107752 Reply To Post
Oh, gawd! Don't start him off! Oh alright then, but be prepared.

Tempy
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Everyone has a price - mine is chocolate

Chocolate is important.
sulcus
 28 Dec 2010, 22:44 #107756 Reply To Post
Quote: Temperance, Tuesday, 28 Dec 2010 22:04
Oh, gawd! Don't start him off! Oh alright then, but be prepared.

Tempy
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Temperence says I'm not allowed...
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
sapplewhite
 29 Dec 2010, 01:12 #107759 Reply To Post
Sulcus, you have my permission to go full steam ahead! Enlighten us with your wondrous words of wisdom! (How's that for alliteration? I know...you've probably a better one: sapplewhite, you suck! ) (No offense, sulcus...only teasing!)
This post was last edited by sapplewhite, 29 Dec 2010, 01:16
sulcus
 29 Dec 2010, 10:34 #107762 Reply To Post
Quote: sapplewhite, Wednesday, 29 Dec 2010 01:12
Sulcus, you have my permission to go full steam ahead! Enlighten us with your wondrous words of wisdom! (How's that for alliteration? I know...you've probably a better one: sapplewhite, you suck! ) (No offense, sulcus...only teasing!)


Supple Sapplewhite's super-fluidity (as in flows supremely not excess to requirements) with spiralling semantic sweeps
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
sulcus
 29 Dec 2010, 10:43 #107763 Reply To Post
Okay to the point in question itself. In my humble opinion, it's bad enough that the book world is divided into genres in the first place. Jane Austen wasn't dubbed romantic fiction in her day, HG Wells wasn't marketed as SciFi and Poe wasn't on the horror/fantasy shelves at the bookshop. But today, as part of the dumbing down process, bookshops have to be told where a book is to sit in their shelves, readers are led by the nose to the books that they like because somehow they only read certain types of books and marketing departments of publishers push books by targeting certain readers rather than wider audiences. It doesn't stop there, since genres have their own sub-genres; urban fantasy has steampunk or the New Weird, which further filters readers fewer and fewer. Supposedly I would never read anything fantasy, yet as an inquiring reader who is prepared to read out of my comfort zone, I've recently read some China Mieville. I'm not a huge fan of SciFi, but every now and then I dip into some.

So, I think it's deleterious to readers and writers both (and possibly booksellers but you'd have to canvas Tempy for a professional opinion on that) to categorise everything in a reductive fashion. Now there is not only marketing by genre, but agenting devoted to it? I just find that depressing. Okay having read their site, these seem two fans of their genres keen to promote new works within it. But agents shouldn't to my mind be setting the commissioning and publishing agendas. A gopod book is a good book is a good book.
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
annswinfen
 29 Dec 2010, 11:04 #107765 Reply To Post
Quote: sulcus, Wednesday, 29 Dec 2010 10:43
Okay to the point in question itself. In my humble opinion, it's bad enough that the book world is divided into genres in the first place. Jane Austen wasn't dubbed romantic fiction in her day, HG Wells wasn't marketed as SciFi and Poe wasn't on the horror/fantasy shelves at the bookshop. But today, as part of the dumbing down process, bookshops have to be told where a book is to sit in their shelves, readers are led by the nose to the books that they like because somehow they only read certain types of books and marketing departments of publishers push books by targeting certain readers rather than wider audiences. It doesn't stop there, since genres have their own sub-genres; urban fantasy has steampunk or the New Weird, which further filters readers fewer and fewer. Supposedly I would never read anything fantasy, yet as an inquiring reader who is prepared to read out of my comfort zone, I've recently read some China Mieville. I'm not a huge fan of SciFi, but every now and then I dip into some.

So, I think it's deleterious to readers and writers both (and possibly booksellers but you'd have to canvas Tempy for a professional opinion on that) to categorise everything in a reductive fashion. Now there is not only marketing by genre, but agenting devoted to it? I just find that depressing. Okay having read their site, these seem two fans of their genres keen to promote new works within it. But agents shouldn't to my mind be setting the commissioning and publishing agendas. A gopod book is a good book is a good book.


Agreed, Marc!
Ann
http://www.annswinfen.com
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