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Athene
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Is anyone else eagerly awaiting the new Sherlock Holmes TV adaptation set in present day London? What do you think about transferring a quintessentially Victorian story series to the modern world? Or any other classic, for that matter? I've been a Holmes fan for a very long time (yeah, yeah, since the books first came out) and I think it looks and sounds terrific - from the excerpts at least. The only thing I don't like is the shot they keep showing of Holmes saying "221b Baker Street" then doing a meerkat impression. That doesn't really bode too well.
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Athene
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So, did anyone else watch it? If not, you missed a treat. I suspect some of the running gags could get a bit tiresome after a few episodes, but I thought some of them were quite brilliant. Mind you, I think you would have to be a Baker Street afficionado to really appreciate some bits.
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robin roughley
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Missed the prog so I can't really comment, however I to am a holmes fan. I didnt expect to like the new film with robert downey but to my surprise i did. Although i have to say that the best holmes was jeremy brett in the old itv adaptations. My eldest daughter got me the box set a couple of years ago and I watch them repeatedly. I suppose that makes me a bit of a saddo but who the hell cares what other people think. Besides those who laugh are usually the ones who watch big brother for days on end Favourite episode is probably the blue carbuncle.
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Athene
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I agree about the Jeremy Brett version. In fact, I think he's the only really convincing screen Holmes - convincing in the sense of being true to Conan Doyle's original. Looking forward to seeing the Robert Downey film. I've seen lots of excerpts, which look intriguing, but I haven't managed to find time to get to the cinema. There seems to have been quite a rash of new Sherlock Holmes stories lately, including an extraordinary series in which Holmes gets married (at the age of about 90, if my calculations are correct). The protagonist is Mrs Holmes. Very odd.
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sulcus
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you liked it despite misgivings. I'm not a Holmes fan (Sherlock that is, not John) so didn't watch it. But I share your initial misgivings about resetting classics in the modern age, or putting zombies in Pride & Prejudice for that matter. I also don't like it when it flows the other way & you get things like Steampunk. A wider question is whether works of literature, written specifically for print, ought to be adapted for other media forms such as TV or film at all. Artistic decisions were made to write it as a book initially, these get trodden all over by adaptations, even if they are by the author themselves. I'm sure most will disagree with me, but how many films are beter than the original novel from which they are taken? In music, such things are called 'mash-ups'.
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Athene
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Quote: sulcus, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 08:56you liked it despite misgivings. I'm not a Holmes fan (Sherlock that is, not John) so didn't watch it. But I share your initial misgivings about resetting classics in the modern age, or putting zombies in Pride & Prejudice for that matter. I also don't like it when it flows the other way & you get things like Steampunk. A wider question is whether works of literature, written specifically for print, ought to be adapted for other media forms such as TV or film at all. Artistic decisions were made to write it as a book initially, these get trodden all over by adaptations, even if they are by the author themselves. I'm sure most will disagree with me, but how many films are better than the original novel from which they are taken? Not many. The first Harry Potter film is much better than the book ... but then the only HP book that is really well written is the third one (of which the film was pretty dreadful). I haven't read the Pride and Pejudice and Zombies thing, because I am a Jane Austen purist (I didn't even like Coin Firth as Darcy, in spite of the wet shirt), and also because I dislike Zombie-lit (except when it's done by Terry Pratchett). Was it any good?
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Cinnamon
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Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was utter dreck. It was amusing for the first 20 pages and then the joke wore VERY thin. I didn't finish it.
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Quote: Cinnamon, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 16:33Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was utter dreck. It was amusing for the first 20 pages and then the joke wore VERY thin. I didn't finish it. Someone wrote one or more sequels to Pride and Prejudice. I looked at one of them, Mr Darcy's Daughters I think it was called, and wasn't impressed
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sulcus
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Quote: Athene, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 15:08Quote: sulcus, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 08:56you liked it despite misgivings. I'm not a Holmes fan (Sherlock that is, not John) so didn't watch it. But I share your initial misgivings about resetting classics in the modern age, or putting zombies in Pride & Prejudice for that matter. I also don't like it when it flows the other way & you get things like Steampunk. A wider question is whether works of literature, written specifically for print, ought to be adapted for other media forms such as TV or film at all. Artistic decisions were made to write it as a book initially, these get trodden all over by adaptations, even if they are by the author themselves. I'm sure most will disagree with me, but how many films are better than the original novel from which they are taken? Not many. The first Harry Potter film is much better than the book ... but then the only HP book that is really well written is the third one (of which the film was pretty dreadful). I haven't read the Pride and Pejudice and Zombies thing, because I am a Jane Austen purist (I didn't even like Coin Firth as Darcy, in spite of the wet shirt), and also because I dislike Zombie-lit (except when it's done by Terry Pratchett). Was it any good? Athene, do you seriously expect me to have read the damn thing? You ought to know my prejudices by now! In fact, I'd go so far to say Pride & Prej & Zombies ought to suffer Sauberung
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Athene
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Quote: MLT, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 16:42Quote: Cinnamon, Saturday, 4 Sep 2010 16:33Pride and Prejudice and Zombies was utter dreck. It was amusing for the first 20 pages and then the joke wore VERY thin. I didn't finish it. Someone wrote one or more sequels to Pride and Prejudice. I looked at one of them, Mr Darcy's Daughters I think it was called, and wasn't impressed My Mother took "The Second Mrs Darcy" out of the library about two months ago, and hasn't got further than about page ten so far, which suggests it's not very good. The cover illustration looks like chicklit, which also bodes ill. I read a Jane-Austen-as-detective novel a few years ago which was really, really bad - the writer couldn't even get the language right, and I also seem to recall a referece to the Black Hole of Calcutta, about fifty years before the Indian Mutiny. The thing that almost all such writers (ie people writing sequels to period novels like Jane Austen's and Conan Doyle's) get hopelessly wrong is forms of address. The only men who address each other by their first names in Jane Austen novels are brothers and very occasionally cousins. Even brothers-in-law use surnames. Friends use surnames - Darcy calls Bingley by his surname and vice versa. How hard is it to get that right? Yet they almost always get it wrong.
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