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 06 Mar 2010, 13:41 #83180 Reply To Post

Ten rules for writing fiction (part two)

From the Guardian. Inspired by Elmore Leonard's 10 Rules of Writing, our survey of established authors' tips for successful authorship continues



Tips for writers. Photograph: Illustration: Andrzej Krauze

Hilary Mantel

1 Are you serious about this? Then get an accountant.

2 Read Becoming a Writer, by Dorothea Brande. Then do what it says, including the tasks you think are impossible. You will particularly hate the advice to write first thing in the morning, but if you can manage it, it might well be the best thing you ever do for yourself. This book is about becoming a writer from the inside out. Many later advice manuals derive from it. You don't ­really need any others, though if you want to boost your confidence, "how to" books seldom do any harm. You can kick-start a whole book with some little writing exercise.

3 Write a book you'd like to read. If you wouldn't read it, why would anybody else? Don't write for a perceived audience or market. It may well have vanished by the time your book's ready.

4 If you have a good story idea, don't assume it must form a prose narrative. It may work better as a play, a screenplay or a poem. Be flexible.

5 Be aware that anything that appears before "Chapter One" may be skipped. Don't put your vital clue there. View complete ten rules
Athene
 06 Mar 2010, 15:08 #83189 Reply To Post
I think it's all rather sad: the first thing to do, according to this, is to get an Accountant. This is not "Ten Rules For Writing Fiction" and it's certainly not "Ten Rules For Wiriting Good Fiction." It's just "Ten Rules for Making Money Out Of Writing Fiction.'

I suppose one couldn't expect The Guardian to understand that there are people who write simply because they love to write, and have something they want to say.


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taggie01
 06 Mar 2010, 21:59 #83203 Reply To Post
I think it's meant to be a joke, Athene!
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Athene
 06 Mar 2010, 22:27 #83204 Reply To Post
Really? So which bit of it is meant to be funny?


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sulcus
 06 Mar 2010, 22:33 #83206 Reply To Post
Will Self's 10 tips in same series were rather entertaining. Haven't got a link but I bet you could google it
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

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Athene
 06 Mar 2010, 22:39 #83207 Reply To Post
Pity they didn't stop after Will Self, then!


"5 Be aware that anything that appears before "Chapter One" may be skipped. Don't put your vital clue there." That's a bit odd, isn't it? It wouldn't occur to me not to read the prologue, or any other preamble - if the author puts it there, presumably because s/he wants the reader to read it.
Do other people habitually skip prologues?
And do people habitually read the dustjacket/back cover synopsis or not? I always do.
This post was last edited by Athene, 06 Mar 2010, 22:44


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sulcus
 06 Mar 2010, 23:52 #83212 Reply To Post
Quote: Athene, Saturday, 6 Mar 2010 22:39
Pity they didn't stop after Will Self, then!


"5 Be aware that anything that appears before "Chapter One" may be skipped. Don't put your vital clue there." That's a bit odd, isn't it? It wouldn't occur to me not to read the prologue, or any other preamble - if the author puts it there, presumably because s/he wants the reader to read it.
Do other people habitually skip prologues?
And do people habitually read the dustjacket/back cover synopsis or not? I always do.


Yes re cover blurb, no I don't skip prologues
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
Athene
 07 Mar 2010, 08:33 #83220 Reply To Post
The blurb is the third most important factor for me in choosing whether or not to buy a book, the first being author and the second being personal recommenation. Cover design and title may well be what make me pick up the book in the first place, but I don't think they influence me further than that.

The same sort of thing applies in choosing what to review on YWO: I go for writers whose work I already know and like, writers who have been "recommended" either directly or indirectly by other reviewers putting them in the charts, and writers who have produced an interesting and well-crafted synopsis.

The "well-crafted" bit is quite important. If the synopsis has any errors of spelling, grammar, punctuation, etc, forget it - if a writer can't, or can't be bothered, to get a 50 word synopsis right, then what's the rest of their work going to be like?

How do other people pick and choose what to review?


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dancingsue
 07 Mar 2010, 12:21 #83224 Reply To Post
Quote: Athene, Sunday, 7 Mar 2010 08:33


How do other people pick and choose what to review?


I don't read the synopsis unless I'm either crazy to see where the story goes, or can't fathom what on earth it's about. Mostly, I think the writing, characters and situation should be intriguing enough to pull you on.

I rarely remove an assignment because of genre, but if it's another story about the boy Arthur, I just might. I'm pretty catholic in my tastes and writing can be excellent in any genre. I've found myself riveted by things I would never think of buying, because the voice is so strong.

Unfortunately my most recent reviews have been quite critical, although I have detected some really exciting ideas and good writing. I have no idea what the authors thought of my advice - probably not much. It's hard to accept when someone says there's something good in here but it needs more focus. I suspect it's because the writer is so familiar with it, they think it's clear to everyone else. I have to believe my honest reaction will be of benefit in the long run, but I'm possibly not the most popular reviewer on the site. On the plus side, my scores usually err on the generous side.
This post was last edited by dancingsue, 07 Mar 2010, 12:21
the long and the short of it

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sulcus
 07 Mar 2010, 12:41 #83225 Reply To Post
duplicated
This post was last edited by sulcus, 07 Mar 2010, 12:44
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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