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locksmithengineer
 23 May 2011, 16:06 #118264 Reply To Post
Hi, i'm new, just joined this month. My story; 'The Kingdom Of Hope' has just enterd the chart at 25. I know i'm not the greatest writer in the world but 25! Has anyone else gone in at that kind of level and progressed up? Strangely, a lot of the stories that I enjoyed reading and reviewing are also in the same reigon. In the 20's. Develop, develop, develop i suppose...
dancingsue
 23 May 2011, 17:44 #118274 Reply To Post
Yes indeed. My first attempts started around that mark too. When you've done some editing after say, a dozen reviews (apart from little things that should be fixed immediately to stop everyone commenting on them), upload a fresh version and watch it fly! Good luck. Sue
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RobertB
 23 May 2011, 18:07 #118280 Reply To Post
Keep working on it. If you persist, you'll get there, either with this piece or another.
locksmithengineer
 23 May 2011, 18:19 #118282 Reply To Post
Thankyou for your encouragement. I suppose eight reviews is early days. Fixed/fixing what i can. . Thanks again!
africaexpat
 25 Jun 2011, 09:59 #121481 Reply To Post
Hi there, I am completely confused. I joined a couple of years ago and uploaded a manuscript. After 8 reviews, rating of 3.7 and a low place in the charts, I gave up. Recently I uploaded a new story. Initially ratings were good, 3.9. I revised the chapter on advice of one reader and after 6 reviews now have a rating of 3.6 - worst ever! Am feeling depressed by YouWriteOn. What is the average rating for a Top 10 book? More than 4 I'm sure.
africaexpat
 25 Jun 2011, 10:01 #121482 Reply To Post
Sorry, me again - My other problem is that I'm writing women's fiction. My harshest critics are always men who talk about 'unnecessary detail', while women say they love my chapters because the are 'evocative'. How can I make sure I've only got women reviewing my work? - Then I might stand a better chance of getting into the top 10?
sulcus
 25 Jun 2011, 10:41 #121483 Reply To Post
Quote: africaexpat, Saturday, 25 Jun 2011 10:01
Sorry, me again - My other problem is that I'm writing women's fiction. My harshest critics are always men who talk about 'unnecessary detail', while women say they love my chapters because the are 'evocative'. How can I make sure I've only got women reviewing my work? - Then I might stand a better chance of getting into the top 10?


With all due respect, if you are only concerned with getting into the Top 10, then you will not get the best out of this site. The Chart placing is just icing on the cake. What it is about is improving your writing. Do you think you are consummate enough a writer already to just crash straight into the Top 10? In which case why are you bothering with the likes of us here? The scores don't matter nearly as much as the specific responses of the reviewers (readers) to your text.

You can't ask men not to review your work. What you can do is use male comments to hone your future marketing of your book, who it's aimed at and why.
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archie_the_cat
 25 Jun 2011, 10:45 #121484 Reply To Post
hmmm

If people are marking you down because they don’t like your genre, then they aren’t playing the game correctly. It quite clearly states in the instructions that you are supposed to score in good faith and on the books own terms.

I don’t think you can do anything about getting only women to read your book (plus I think that would be a mistake anyway). But there is a ‘fans of this genre’ score somewhere which might give you a better picture of what your target audience thinks.

But mostly – stop worrying about the charts – unless you’re at number 1 they don’t matter.

Nick (a man who reads and writes chick-lit)
pam123writing
 25 Jun 2011, 10:46 #121485 Reply To Post
Quote: africaexpat, Saturday, 25 Jun 2011 10:01
Sorry, me again - My other problem is that I'm writing women's fiction. My harshest critics are always men who talk about 'unnecessary detail', while women say they love my chapters because the are 'evocative'. How can I make sure I've only got women reviewing my work? - Then I might stand a better chance of getting into the top 10?


Don't despair. You can't just have women readers! Doesn't work like that on here. Men can sometimes see things that women are blind to. I wrote what I thought was more suited to women, but I've had some of my best and most constructive reviews from men who've really enjoyed my stories. My book reviews on Amazon by men are very favourable, too. You need that balance of m/f readers to get a true picture. As regards to your other query about chart positions, I'm not sure what the current top ten scores are, but you need around a 4.4 to 4.8 to be amongst the top five. I had a 4.8 on a number one novel last year, but I also got to number 2 with a 4.4 the year before. Hope that gives you an idea. But really, just forget the charts for now and use the reviews that are the most helpful to polish up your story to make it the best ever. Get the balance right in your settings and details without over egging it and you'll please all your readers, whatever their sex, and that's what it's all about! Good luck.
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marmitemonster
 25 Jun 2011, 11:32 #121491 Reply To Post
Hiya Locksmith,

I went in at 25 too, because despite the 4.5's most people were giving me, I had a whole set of two's and a two whole sets of threes !!! Regardless of the glowing reviews.

I've managed to delete the twos and one set of threes now, and I've gone up to 17, so there is hope! I might have to re-upload to get any further up though? Not sure.

Anyway, keep plugging away.
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