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Athene
 31 Aug 2010, 18:25 #97735 Reply To Post
Recently this expression has been cropping up a lot on YWO, so I looked it up in Wikkipaedia. It wasn't in the least what I was expecting, but at least the "steam" bit now makes some sense. But why punk? Does anyone know?


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MLT
 31 Aug 2010, 19:26 #97739 Reply To Post
It is rather confusing, isn't it? I almost rejected an assignment because I didn't know what steam punk is. When I read the piece, it was nothing like what I had expected.

I wish someone would compile a glossary of all these strange sub-genres.
sulcus
 31 Aug 2010, 19:32 #97740 Reply To Post
Quote: MLT, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 19:26
It is rather confusing, isn't it? I almost rejected an assignment because I didn't know what steam punk is. When I read the piece, it was nothing like what I had expected.

I wish someone would compile a glossary of all these strange sub-genres.


or just not resort to them
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Ruth F
 31 Aug 2010, 19:50 #97744 Reply To Post
Yes I had to look it up too after reading Alex Riley's 'Victoria Sponge'. but it makes sense in context. I also had to look up 'Fanfiction' after reading something else - you get to learn a lot here!
sulcus
 31 Aug 2010, 20:18 #97746 Reply To Post
you want to try slash fiction...
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Cinnamon
 31 Aug 2010, 20:43 #97748 Reply To Post
Quote: Athene, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 18:25
Recently this expression has been cropping up a lot on YWO, so I looked it up in Wikkipaedia. It wasn't in the least what I was expecting, but at least the "steam" bit now makes some sense. But why punk? Does anyone know?


Steampunk is a subgenre of Cyberpunk. According to Wikipedia:

Quote:
Protagonists in cyberpunk writing usually include computer hackers, who are often patterned on the idea of the lone hero fighting injustice, such as Robin Hood.[18] One of the cyberpunk genre's prototype characters is Case, from Gibson's Neuromancer.[19] Case is a "console cowboy", a brilliant hacker who had betrayed his organized criminal partners. Robbed of his talent through a crippling injury inflicted by the vengeful partners, Case unexpectedly receives a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be healed by expert medical care but only if he participates in another criminal enterprise with a new crew.

Like Case, many cyberpunk protagonists are manipulated, placed in situations where they have little or no choice, and although they might see things through, they do not necessarily come out any further ahead than they previously were. These anti-heroes—"criminals, outcasts, visionaries, dissenters and misfits"[20] call to mind the private eye of detective novels. This emphasis on the misfits and the malcontents is the "punk" component of cyberpunk.
E-asy Peasy?
Cinnamon
 31 Aug 2010, 20:48 #97749 Reply To Post
Quote: sulcus, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 20:18
you want to try slash fiction...


Personally, I enjoy a good Draco Malfoy/Harry Potter slash. I'm thinking of writing a Severus Snape (à la Alan Rickman)/Cinnamon slash...
E-asy Peasy?
Athene
 31 Aug 2010, 21:26 #97757 Reply To Post
Quote: Cinnamon, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 20:43
Quote: Athene, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 18:25
Recently this expression has been cropping up a lot on YWO, so I looked it up in Wikkipaedia. It wasn't in the least what I was expecting, but at least the "steam" bit now makes some sense. But why punk? Does anyone know?


Steampunk is a subgenre of Cyberpunk. According to Wikipedia:

Quote:
Protagonists in cyberpunk writing usually include computer hackers, who are often patterned on the idea of the lone hero fighting injustice, such as Robin Hood.[18] One of the cyberpunk genre's prototype characters is Case, from Gibson's Neuromancer.[19] Case is a "console cowboy", a brilliant hacker who had betrayed his organized criminal partners. Robbed of his talent through a crippling injury inflicted by the vengeful partners, Case unexpectedly receives a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to be healed by expert medical care but only if he participates in another criminal enterprise with a new crew.

Like Case, many cyberpunk protagonists are manipulated, placed in situations where they have little or no choice, and although they might see things through, they do not necessarily come out any further ahead than they previously were. These anti-heroes—"criminals, outcasts, visionaries, dissenters and misfits"[20] call to mind the private eye of detective novels. This emphasis on the misfits and the malcontents is the "punk" component of cyberpunk.


So punk = misfit, malcontent?
Would "His Dark Materials" be classed as steampunk?


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Turnip
 31 Aug 2010, 21:37 #97759 Reply To Post
and what about John Banville's The Infinities, where the rules of physics have been reinvented and cold fusion powers cars with seawater? Misfits and malcontents but no main protagonist, omniscient narrator of the Greek god Hermes. Maybe he's the MM.
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Cinnamon
 31 Aug 2010, 21:45 #97761 Reply To Post
Quote: Athene, Tuesday, 31 Aug 2010 21:26
Would "His Dark Materials" be classed as steampunk?


I think so. Or at least as having steampunk elements.


E-asy Peasy?
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