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sulcus
 08 Jun 2011, 17:05 #119828 Reply To Post
Yes it's come to this, I'm going to put one of my sacred texts in e-book form. But I know nothing about what's required. So -

1) Recommended e-formats, kindle or others please
2) ISBN help
3) Selling price recommendations
3) Do you need a back cover & a spine design for e-books?
5) Do you have things like dedications & epigrams?
6) Where if anywhere on the book itself do you put blurbs?
7) Any other handy tips

With regards to number 1, what formatting do I need to be aware of?


Many thanks in anticipation

marc

"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
DaiBach
 08 Jun 2011, 18:07 #119834 Reply To Post
Quote: sulcus, Wednesday, 8 Jun 2011 17:05
Yes it's come to this, I'm going to put one of my sacred texts in e-book form. But I know nothing about what's required. So -

1) Recommended e-formats, kindle or others please
2) ISBN help
3) Selling price recommendations
3) Do you need a back cover & a spine design for e-books?
5) Do you have things like dedications & epigrams?
6) Where if anywhere on the book itself do you put blurbs?
7) Any other handy tips

With regards to number 1, what formatting do I need to be aware of?


Many thanks in anticipation

marc



Well, it's pretty easy in Kindle. Amazon tells you to download 'MobiCreator', a freebie, and when you have your text looking good, go in to MobiCreator and open your text document et voila' It is much harder to master the 'Kindle Upload Pages' on Amazon than to get the book into the right format.

And, if you don't have a Kindle, there is a free download for AppleMac (which I think you use) and Windows. If you use Ubuntu, like I do, it's more difficult but still not mind shattering.

The cover you best pay for. Joe90's daughter does a mean line in covers at a good price but I believe she is devoting time to her studies right now.

It is important to get the cover well designed, and by a graphic designer who knows what it is to be used for.

I put a book up, 'The Boy Who Swallowed a Monster' and the cover, which I paid for some years ago, looked dreadful. So I tried to design one myself and that looks dreadful.

The best price seems to be £0.99p which gives you about 34p, I think, for yourself. But there are plenty of other on YWO who have done much better than I on Kindle and I sure the will advise you

David

sulcus
 08 Jun 2011, 18:48 #119837 Reply To Post
Thanks David for that. The cover is in safe hands ie not mine. But I'm still none the wiser if I need a back cover as well?

The software formatting download you mention, does that work for an applemac do you know?

I don't own a kindle but someone mentioned you could view kindle through your laptop, which I think is what you're saying here.

Thanks again
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
perrybond
 09 Jun 2011, 09:23 #119890 Reply To Post
You do not need a spine or back cover, just a front cover. The front cover obviously needs to look good, the same as for a physical book, but it also needs to look good shrunk down to a thumbnail on Amazon. Also on the kindle it's self - although less important - the cover gets reduced to about eight shades of grey.
I found that fancy texts and shadows don't work.

As for formats, Kindle as mentioned, then when you've mastered that, smashwords, which converts it to lots of formats and sends it to Apple, Sony, Barnes & Noble and a few others.

Formatting the book, there's loads of information out there, but in essence it boils down to:
1. Never have more than four returns in a row.
2. Never use the tab key at all, ever.
3. No special characters (if it's not printed on your keyboard, don't use it.
3. Don't use justified


Blurb: Yes you need one, but it doesn't go within the text of the book (or on a cover.) You send it with the submission.

ISBN, for Amazon (Kindle) you don't need one.
You don't have to have one for smashwords either, but if you don't they cannot submit it to some of the distributors. (But they will give/sell you one)


Selling price, the wisdom I've read on here suggests under 99p for good sales, and that seems to have been historically true. But I've also read from a number of people that they were disappointed with their 99p read and serves themselves right for buying a cheap read, with words to the effect they will be judging a book not by it's cover but by it's price.
I feel, that the 99p book has had it's day and you need to charge more to show your book is quality. - But this is only my theory and to date my book (at £2.99) has had very few sales, so I'm probably wrong


If you have any questions, just ask, as I am a seasoned professional at this. (been doing it nearly a month)
This post was last edited by perrybond, 09 Jun 2011, 09:32
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sarsen
 09 Jun 2011, 10:51 #119905 Reply To Post
The kindle experience. I got a small outfit in the States to format my novel. It cost $140 but while they did that I could get on with making art enamels for the local gallery.

Selling price of 99c. 'Tom Fleck' has sold 48 downloads in 34 days. I'm leaving it there for a little while longer before I put up the price.
It is a strange world - this marketing. Sometimes I just have to break off and find sanity in turning a compost heap or planting out leeks.

48 ebooks at 99c is equivalent to about 11 paperback sales in terms of author income. Either way, it does not pay the bills. I can earn that amount after 90 minutes with the enamel kiln. All that can change if the ebook goes 'viral'.

But I truly enjoyed creating Tom's world (and still go there when it all gets too much).

Best wishes for your venture, Sulcus. One benefit of book promotion on the web is the interesting and lovely people you can meet.
blog: http://1513fusion.wordpress.com/
taggie01
 09 Jun 2011, 11:50 #119910 Reply To Post
Sulcus! Welcome to the ebook fold!
It really is easy to do it yourself. You don't have to pay money to anyone to format it. Its very self-explanatory and Perry has listed the points perfectly. Cover is obvious and you have that handled.
Price? I have vacillated between 99cents and 2.99 cents in Kindle USA. But I am sticking with 99 cents and allowing Kindle to call the associated price in the UK. My third novel may be priced at 2.99. The nice thing is that you can change your price when the mood strikes.
Smashwords is a little more difficult and I don't think there's any point in doing it if you don't aim for Premium Catalogue status. That gets you onto all the major catalogues: Apple, Kobo, Nook etc. Otherwise you are restricted to just the Smashwords catalogue. An ISBN is part of Smashwords but they offer you a free one.
Being e-published was a good thing for me. But I will always run a POD version concurrently. Go for it and I can't wait to buy your title!
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sulcus
 09 Jun 2011, 13:27 #119920 Reply To Post
Quote: perrybond, Thursday, 9 Jun 2011 09:23
You do not need a spine or back cover, just a front cover. The front cover obviously needs to look good, the same as for a physical book, but it also needs to look good shrunk down to a thumbnail on Amazon. Also on the kindle it's self - although less important - the cover gets reduced to about eight shades of grey.
I found that fancy texts and shadows don't work.

As for formats, Kindle as mentioned, then when you've mastered that, smashwords, which converts it to lots of formats and sends it to Apple, Sony, Barnes & Noble and a few others.

Formatting the book, there's loads of information out there, but in essence it boils down to:
1. Never have more than four returns in a row.
2. Never use the tab key at all, ever.
3. No special characters (if it's not printed on your keyboard, don't use it.
3. Don't use justified


Blurb: Yes you need one, but it doesn't go within the text of the book (or on a cover.) You send it with the submission.

ISBN, for Amazon (Kindle) you don't need one.
You don't have to have one for smashwords either, but if you don't they cannot submit it to some of the distributors. (But they will give/sell you one)


Selling price, the wisdom I've read on here suggests under 99p for good sales, and that seems to have been historically true. But I've also read from a number of people that they were disappointed with their 99p read and serves themselves right for buying a cheap read, with words to the effect they will be judging a book not by it's cover but by it's price.
I feel, that the 99p book has had it's day and you need to charge more to show your book is quality. - But this is only my theory and to date my book (at £2.99) has had very few sales, so I'm probably wrong


If you have any questions, just ask, as I am a seasoned professional at this. (been doing it nearly a month)


Briklliant, thanks Perry.

I wonder then as I have some online forum type formatting which involves tabs, that may then present problems?
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
perrybond
 09 Jun 2011, 14:21 #119931 Reply To Post
You have to remember that ereaders are popular with the older generation, one of the reasons for this is the ability to increase the font size; so a tab, or a 1" indent that looks fine on a page, with a large font may push the first word right across the page.
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sulcus
 09 Jun 2011, 23:17 #119973 Reply To Post
Perry, I got a mate of mine to show me his kindle tonight and he remarked that it was hard to scroll back more than a couple of pages already read. I seem to remember your book has maps in it, I assume at the beginning, so readers may find it hard to go back and reference them. Have you found this? I ask only out of curiosity, since I don't think such a potential problem applies to my books
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
mrflint
 10 Jun 2011, 08:40 #119999 Reply To Post
Surprised your mate has found this, I'm frequently flicking back and forth through the pages of a chapter, though you do have too do it page by page, rather than just keeping your finger on the page you're reading as in a real book. That said, it's easy to put numerous bookmarks on the Kindle, which it goes to pretty much instantly, so when there's something that you're likely to keep referring to (such as a map) it's easy to find.
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