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taggie01
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Has anyone else seen this? Found on a link via Nathan Bransford's blog. Check out this: http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/the-great-underground-myth-why-self-publishing-doesnt-work/ Hmm! It would be nice if Jane Green et al didn't get quite so much press. I for one have loved the journey I have been on through YWO and I have two books with an established but small fan-base, two books with magnificent top crafted covers, two books that were professionally formatted. If nothing else, this journey has led me to learn about the needs and demands of agents, marketing departments, retailers, but most importantly the reader and what they like. As far as I can see, the weak link in mainstream publishing is that IT IS SUBJECTIVE. One editor or agent one day in a big house might hate what another editor another day absolutely loves. It's all in the timing. And if its takes an independently published journey to give one the confidence to go on with another manuscript and move toward mainstream publication, what is wrong with that? It can be a bridging process surely.
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sulcus
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Hmm, 3AM was on my hit list for reviews...
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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Athene
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"Doesn't work" in what sense? It worked for me: I wanted to see my novels in print at minimal cost, and to be able to give them to people who enjoy my work. I've got exactly what I wanted. If you have ambitions to be a best seller and/or make a fortune, then I guess it won't work for most people (the Duncton Wood books are a notable exception) - but is that really why most of us write?
This post was last edited by Athene, 05 Dec 2009, 11:10
Scias te fortasse Romanum esse si animal convivialissimum arbitreris esse caprum (Henricus Barbatus) my website
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gabriella
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It could be if we all self-publish, it will put the big guys out of a job. I'm sure they are not to happy about that prospect. I'm still going to do the big house thing and, if all else fails, then I'll go for the self-publishing. I think the journey either way is a difficult but glorious one and I look forward to walking one or both paths.
Jen "Those who control their passions do so because their passions are weak enough to be controlled." William Blake my blog
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eileenmac
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Of course self-publishing doesn't work if you expect to:-
make enough money so that you become mega-rich over night.
become a household name (e.g. JKRowling).
have agents/publishers beating a path to your door for your next book.
And so on.
I have self-published two novels, with the third now finished and awaiting publication by Ted. There is nothing quite like holding your masterpiece of literature in your hand, even though you may not even recoup your financial outlay.
Just don't expect miracles. They rarely happen, but don't let that stop you going down the self-publishing path, as long as you are careful who you deal with.
Take no notice of all the doom merchants out there. They know nothing.
Eileen
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Athene
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I think there are distinct advantages to self-publishing, unless of course your main aim is fame/money. If you self-publish, you don't have to answer to anyone: you can publish exactly what you want, without commercial pressures from editor/publisher to make changes to your work that you may not like. You can choose your own cover design instead of having one imposed on you - a friend of mine who went with a commercial publisher last year absolutely hates her book cover, which has rather spoiled the whole experience for her. You don't have to wait and wait for your book to come out - and possibly find that the publisher changes his/her mind part way through the process, leaving you back at square one. If you care about such things: by self-publishing you're doing your bit, in a very small way, for the environment. If it's POD, there are no big print runs that could end up being remaindered (and what a depressing thing that would be). And it means you can thumb your nose at all those publishers and agents who always used to have writers over a barrell. Self-publishing means no one has to grovel any more to see their books in print.
Scias te fortasse Romanum esse si animal convivialissimum arbitreris esse caprum (Henricus Barbatus) my website
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sulcus
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Quote: eileenmac, Saturday, 5 Dec 2009 14:02Take no notice of all the doom merchants out there. They know nothing. Eileen I think none of us really know what the future holds such is the state of flux in publishing. Self-publishers might soon disappear if people want to read on Kindle and e-books, or it might give them a business model to dominate the market. We just don't know. Watch this space is all I can advise
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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Carole
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Quote: eileenmac, Saturday, 5 Dec 2009 14:02Of course self-publishing doesn't work if you expect to:- make enough money so that you become mega-rich over night. become a household name (e.g. JKRowling). have agents/publishers beating a path to your door for your next book. Neither does traditional publishing! Another advantage of self publishing is that you can keep the book out there circulating - it won't be taken off the shelves after about three months. (That's if it ever gets on the shelves).
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Babylon
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Quote: taggie01, Saturday, 5 Dec 2009 00:07Has anyone else seen this? Found on a link via Nathan Bransford's blog. Check out this: http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/the-great-underground-myth-why-self-publishing-doesnt-work/ Hmm! It would be nice if Jane Green et al didn't get quite so much press. I for one have loved the journey I have been on through YWO and I have two books with an established but small fan-base, two books with magnificent top crafted covers, two books that were professionally formatted. If nothing else, this journey has led me to learn about the needs and demands of agents, marketing departments, retailers, but most importantly the reader and what they like. As far as I can see, the weak link in mainstream publishing is that IT IS SUBJECTIVE. One editor or agent one day in a big house might hate what another editor another day absolutely loves. It's all in the timing. And if its takes an independently published journey to give one the confidence to go on with another manuscript and move toward mainstream publication, what is wrong with that? It can be a bridging process surely. Have you seen the rebuttal? Worth reading. Shame Ted got yet another hammering in that piece. Perhaps some of you who are happy with your YWO publishing experience should add your comments to the How Publishing Really Works blog which links to this piece.
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pam123writing
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Quote: sulcus, Saturday, 5 Dec 2009 14:06Quote: eileenmac, Saturday, 5 Dec 2009 14:02Take no notice of all the doom merchants out there. They know nothing. Eileen I think none of us really know what the future holds such is the state of flux in publishing. Self-publishers might soon disappear if people want to read on Kindle and e-books, or it might give them a business model to dominate the market. We just don't know. Watch this space is all I can advise Yeah, I agree with Sulcas here. It's exciting to hold your book, no matter what others may say about POD. The fact is, you've committed yourself to a project and you've completed it to YOUR satisfaction. Then to see it selling on Amazon etc is amazing. So ignore the doom and gloom mongers and all those who tell you you're not a writer because you self-publish. They will still be waiting ten years down the line for an agent and you'll be happily flogging your tenth book. 
"And, in the end, the love you take / Is equal to the love you make." Lennon and McCartney 1969
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Self-Publishing? To be or not to be.
05 Dec 2009, 00:07
