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Dan Brown sold a shed load of books and some people rave about how entertaining are his books. Go figure. Philius T Barnum claimed there was one born every minute.
But back to my point, if we want to get published, perhaps we shouldn't be so po-faced, get off our intellectual high horse and start writing something lots of people want to read.
P.S. My Horse is intellectual, reads Elliot and everything.
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sulcus
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Quote: stuartstantondavies, Friday, 23 Jul 2010 18:26Dan Brown sold a shed load of books and some people rave about how entertaining are his books. Go figure. Philius T Barnum claimed there was one born every minute. But back to my point, if we want to get published, perhaps we shouldn't be so po-faced, get off our intellectual high horse and start writing something lots of people want to read. P.S. My Horse is intellectual, reads Elliot and everything. I would put the counter-argument, that maybe if a few more writers put out some challenging reads out there into the market, maybe the reading public would relish what they were being offered. Now which of the two elements on the market's supply side are holding back on this, the publishers or the writers themselves, I couldn't say.
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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Carole
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Yeah, in the immortal words of Mr T - Get Some Nuts  I blame the publishers as well - books just go through workshop/agent/publisher mincer and come out like pap. There should be more cult or underground publishers out there, like in the sixties, man. :blows out smoke: nowwhatwasIsayin..........
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Sammy
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Publishers (and agents) in my humble opinion, claim to want something new but actually, just want more of the same. It also seems to me that books now have to appeal to people who don't actually read very much. Let me qualify that: I'm sure I recall a time when a writer was allowed some time to draw a reader into their story. Now, everything must be instant. Instant hook. Instant big event in the first two pages. Every chapter must end on a cliff hanger. Just like TV. I blame Lost!
'Stay away from your potential. It's like your bank balance. There's never as much of it as you think.'
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sulcus
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Couldn't disagree with either of you. But some writers self-censor, they look at what the market is made up of and what they judge it will sustain and tailor their work accordingly.
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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winton
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Today's literary salad will soon be rotten potatoes. If anyone wants to try writing what's hot today, lots of luck. By the time you write an entire novel, do seven or eight drafts, shag down an agent--who in turn goes publisher hunting, todays creme de la creme will have gone sour. I think we all must resort to that tired old, cliched advice--write what you know. If we do that well and are colossally lucky maybe what we know will be tomorrows "trend". Look at The Bridges of Madison County. Who ever dreamed a story about an Iowa farmers wife and a roaming photographer in Levi's would ever sell the way it did? And that at a time when everyone wanted to read about thirty-year old Wall Street whiz kids snorting white powder. Who knows what will be hot next, surely not the agents who reject us.
This post was last edited by winton, 24 Jul 2010, 11:18
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sulcus
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Quote: winton, Saturday, 24 Jul 2010 11:14Today's literary salad will soon be rotten potatoes. If anyone wants to try writing what's hot today, lots of luck. By the time you write an entire novel, do seven or eight drafts, shag down an agent--who in turn goes publisher hunting, todays creme de la creme will have gone sour. Hallelujah brother I here ya. Praise be for some common sense on a forum. Veritably it is a miracle
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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nosekmedas
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Quote: winton, Saturday, 24 Jul 2010 11:14Today's literary salad will soon be rotten potatoes. If anyone wants to try writing what's hot today, lots of luck. By the time you write an entire novel, do seven or eight drafts, shag down an agent--who in turn goes publisher hunting, todays creme de la creme will have gone sour. I think we all must resort to that tired old, cliched advice--write what you know. If we do that well and are colossally lucky maybe what we know will be tomorrows "trend". Look at The Bridges of Madison County. Who ever dreamed a story about an Iowa farmers wife and a roaming photographer in Levi's would ever sell the way it did? And that at a time when everyone wanted to read about thirty-year old Wall Street whiz kids snorting white powder. Who knows what will be hot next, surely not the agents who reject us. You've hit the nail on the head, and thank your little cotton socks. I was just about to reinvent the Zombie / Vampire / Dead Thingy genre with abs, and a living girl thrown in for entertain. But what's the point? It's all pretty putrid at it stands.
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Quote: nosekmedas, Tuesday, 17 Aug 2010 11:14Quote: winton, Saturday, 24 Jul 2010 11:14Today's literary salad will soon be rotten potatoes. If anyone wants to try writing what's hot today, lots of luck. By the time you write an entire novel, do seven or eight drafts, shag down an agent--who in turn goes publisher hunting, todays creme de la creme will have gone sour. I think we all must resort to that tired old, cliched advice--write what you know. If we do that well and are colossally lucky maybe what we know will be tomorrows "trend". Look at The Bridges of Madison County. Who ever dreamed a story about an Iowa farmers wife and a roaming photographer in Levi's would ever sell the way it did? And that at a time when everyone wanted to read about thirty-year old Wall Street whiz kids snorting white powder. Who knows what will be hot next, surely not the agents who reject us. You've hit the nail on the head, and thank your little cotton socks. I was just about to reinvent the Zombie / Vampire / Dead Thingy genre with abs, and a living girl thrown in for entertain. But what's the point? It's all pretty putrid at it stands. When I hear the words 'sub-genre' I reach for my gun...
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
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