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AntCity
 31 Oct 2011, 09:09 #133894 Reply To Post
Joanna Yeate's parents on Vincent Tabak;

'...that he spends the rest of his life incarcerated where his life is a living hell, being the recipient of all evils, deprivations and degradations that his situation can provide.'
Joe 90
 31 Oct 2011, 10:11 #133902 Reply To Post
Quote: AntCity, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 09:09
Joanna Yeate's parents on Vincent Tabak;

'...that he spends the rest of his life incarcerated where his life is a living hell, being the recipient of all evils, deprivations and degradations that his situation can provide.'


What is your point exactly?
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papa stas
 31 Oct 2011, 10:16 #133903 Reply To Post
Quote: AntCity, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 09:09
Joanna Yeate's parents on Vincent Tabak;

'...that he spends the rest of his life incarcerated where his life is a living hell, being the recipient of all evils, deprivations and degradations that his situation can provide.'


You're damn right that's what they're for!

papa
stas (would rather see a long-slow-tortuous-death instead)

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AntCity
 31 Oct 2011, 10:49 #133905 Reply To Post
Quote: Joe 90, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 10:11
Quote: AntCity, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 09:09
Joanna Yeate's parents on Vincent Tabak;

'...that he spends the rest of his life incarcerated where his life is a living hell, being the recipient of all evils, deprivations and degradations that his situation can provide.'


What is your point exactly?


The answer to your question is one that I have pondered my entire life. But, in relation to the topic, do you think that is what should happen inside prison? Is that the punishment prisons should deliver?
Is the above quote a generally accepted point of view held by people in the UK on what constitutes punishment in prison?
I don't think it is how those who currently run the penal system see the role of prisons.
Currently, prisons punish by removing autonomy and liberty. They are, however, expected to protect those in their custody from being the recipients of all evils that the situation can provide.
PERRY
 31 Oct 2011, 11:15 #133907 Reply To Post
Currently, "punishment" as handed out by the judicial system, per se, is a joke. The only real hardship is the obnoxious behaviour between inmates where the worst get off Scott-free and the rest suffer in inverse increment to what is deserved, a surreal mirror of society without.

I understand where AntiCity is coming from - that it should actually be a controlled punishment within the 'Geneva Convention', so to speak. Certainly there seems to be too many innocents and non-violent offenders being exposed to such.

As regards the freaks and murderers, I say hell rub it up them. They rolled their evil dice.

However, I would not seriously advocate, especially in such a public manner, the depravities which inmates suffer at the hands of their peers and any sadistic guards which they may encounter.

That begs the question: who is sicker? Grief and anger are one thing, the wish to do personal harm clearly understandable, but to stand up and openly curse (in the medieval sense) another human being (however vile) with a prepared statement is doing the bereaved family more harm than the murderer.

Tabak has already hit bottom. The Yeates family need to hold on to their humanity to honour Joanna, not follow her murderer down his rabbit hole.
AntCity
 31 Oct 2011, 11:24 #133909 Reply To Post
Joanna Yeate's parents want Tabak to hang. Our justice system does not allow that. They are, therefore, reduced to calling for all evils, deprivations and degradations, within prison, to fall upon him. Does this mean that his face should by cut by razors; that he is beaten to a pulp? Should the justice demanded by the family of a murder victim be placed in the hands of criminals to deliver?
papa stas
 31 Oct 2011, 11:35 #133911 Reply To Post
Quote: AntCity, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 11:24

Should the justice demanded by the family of a murder victim be placed in the hands of criminals to deliver?


Yea!

If the courts don't do it -

then let the other bastards do it!

Somebody's gotta pay -

for snuffing the life out of a young lady -

for no fucking reason at all.

papa
stas (DEATH TO ALL WHO CAUSE IT - and that includes politicians who send kids to do their dirty work for 'em)


Old soldiers never die.
Only young ones.
This post was last edited by papa stas, 31 Oct 2011, 11:36
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sulcus
 31 Oct 2011, 11:39 #133912 Reply To Post
When did YWO turn into The Spectator's Coffee House Blog?
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papa stas
 31 Oct 2011, 12:24 #133917 Reply To Post
Quote: sulcus, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 11:39
When did YWO turn into The Spectator's Coffee House Blog?


Ya mean this isn't the coffee house blog?

Oh my -

I didn't realize that.

papa
stas (needs better glasses)

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Joe 90
 31 Oct 2011, 12:59 #133918 Reply To Post
Quote: papa stas, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 12:24
Quote: sulcus, Monday, 31 Oct 2011 11:39
When did YWO turn into The Spectator's Coffee House Blog?


Ya mean this isn't the coffee house blog?

Oh my -

I didn't realize that.

papa
stas (needs better glasses)



I'll have a Capital-punishment-Occhino with extra froth please.
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