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erict
 22 Jul 2011, 10:32 #124510 Reply To Post
I know that I need to tighten up my writing and I'm considering getting the first part of the currrent piece done by a professional. I've seen Bubble cow in a magazine, but wondered if anybody had used them.
Steve_M
 22 Jul 2011, 12:58 #124529 Reply To Post
Hi Erict,

I don't know these guys, but I can recomend Johnny Vee as an editor. He frequents this site and pointed me to it, I stumbled accross him on another forum. He has a book on here called 'Kimi's Secret' if you want to check it out.

He's a fantastic guy and his opinions are worth a lot. He really helped my writing no end.

His email is soulies2@aol.com, well worth dropping him a line.

(I don't receive anything for recomendations by the way)

Cheers,

Steve.
LoopyLou
 22 Jul 2011, 22:36 #124597 Reply To Post
Bubble Cow is on Twitter a lot, she offers lots of advice on her blog. I'm sure she'd offer a sample edit (most do).

I've used Johnny and can recommend him. He is very thorough.

But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.

I suggest you re-read your ms again with fresh eyes (after a couple of weeks distancing yourself from it). Then maybe swap your ms with someone who is also after an edit (beta readers). Re-read it again yourself, and only when you're sure you've done all you can, *then* get yourself an editor/proof-reader.

I'm after a beta reader for my romance/women's fiction, or will be in a couple of weeks. If anyone wants to swap files with me please get in touch.
louisewise3@ntlworld.com


___________________________________________________
http://louisewise.blogspot.com

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Louise-Wise/e/B003FW6RKM/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_pop_1Romance by Louise Wise
erict
 23 Jul 2011, 11:36 #124673 Reply To Post
Thanks, I am looking for somebody to challenge the whole thing. I have a good friend who loves combing for commas, grammar and spelling, but isn't professional and wouldn't know how to challenge the plot/structure and the current publishing "rules".
notleyab
 23 Jul 2011, 12:08 #124680 Reply To Post
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means.
If somone calling themselves an editor turned round & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.
sulcus
 23 Jul 2011, 14:41 #124711 Reply To Post
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 12:08
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means *.
If somone calling themselves * an editor turned round * & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description *, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.


"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
notleyab
 23 Jul 2011, 15:10 #124713 Reply To Post
Quote: sulcus, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 14:41
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 12:08
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means *.
If somone calling themselves * an editor turned round * & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description *, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.



so turned round is a cliché? - how abt turned oblong? OK?
Or are you subtly pointing out errors?
My excuse is the same as an off-duty copper...
LoopyLou
 23 Jul 2011, 16:51 #124725 Reply To Post
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 12:08
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means.
If somone calling themselves an editor turned round & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.


I've recently learned that an editor is different from a proof-reader. A proof-reader will read the WORDS and make sure they are spelt correctly/grammar correct etc. An editor will read the STORY and check for constancy, plot holes, general errors etc.




___________________________________________________
http://louisewise.blogspot.com

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Louise-Wise/e/B003FW6RKM/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_pop_1Romance by Louise Wise
sulcus
 23 Jul 2011, 17:19 #124726 Reply To Post
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 15:10
Quote: sulcus, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 14:41
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 12:08
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means *.
If somone calling themselves * an editor turned round * & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description *, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.



so turned round is a cliché? - how abt turned oblong? OK?
Or are you subtly pointing out errors?
My excuse is the same as an off-duty copper...


I refer you to threads passim, some of which have been locked
"A,B&E", "Not In My Name" and "52FF" (flash fiction anthology) all available on Amazon Kindle

"How a psychopath makes sweet love. I can get you ringside. Royal box even."
notleyab
 23 Jul 2011, 17:23 #124727 Reply To Post
Quote: LoopyLou, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 16:51
Quote: notleyab, Saturday, 23 Jul 2011 12:08
Quote: LoopyLou, Friday, 22 Jul 2011 22:36
But the above are editors, and although they will check any typos if they come across them they won't be looking out for them.


As someone who sometimes does professional editing, can I ask you what exactly do you think edit means.
If somone calling themselves an editor turned round & said that looking out for typos was not part of their job description, I wd avoid them like the plague.*
*My cliché of the day.


I've recently learned that an editor is different from a proof-reader. A proof-reader will read the WORDS and make sure they are spelt correctly/grammar correct etc. An editor will read the STORY and check for constancy, plot holes, general errors etc.





Well I've done both at the same time, as an editor at international conferences.
Point I'm making is, at this level of writing if somebody turns round & says "I'm an editor, not a proof reader looking for typos," I wd write them off as a prima donna.
A good editor needs to be able to repair anything.
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