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In the case of 'Appearances', the setting up the Search Inside the Book (SIBT) facility at amazon.com was the quickest and easiest operation of the whole publishing process: it took two days in total. I merely followed the instructions, received confirmation of my request, submitted the text block PDF with the front cover and back cover in the appropriate places (in front of, and behind the text), and next day Look Inside was active on amazon.com. I have emailed amazon.co.uk to see if I have to submit separately to them for SITB. Considering I had been one of the original submitters before Christmas 2008, it wasn't until Oct 2009 the book came out. I don't really know why, since there was very little (effectively NONE) feedback at any stage. Only recently, with New Generation, have my emails been promptly answered, so the SIBT response was unbelievably fast. So, for everyone who reviewed and showed interest in reading 'Appearances', many thanks, and it is now available at amazon.co.uk and you can peek inside on amazon.com. Also, visit our group at www.antonygloster.com. AG – for Melodie H. Connall
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Quote: antonygloster, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 09:33In the case of 'Appearances', the setting up the Search Inside the Book (SIBT) facility at amazon.com was the quickest and easiest operation of the whole publishing process: it took two days in total. I merely followed the instructions, received confirmation of my request, submitted the text block PDF with the front cover and back cover in the appropriate places (in front of, and behind the text), and next day Look Inside was active on amazon.com. I love it! The quickest and easiest operation ... and it only took two days As for merely following the instructions ... that only works if you (a) understand the instructions and (b) have the right software. Sincere congratulations on getting it to work  - but I suspect I'm not alone in wishing that YWO would offer this as a service to members (for a fee, of course), as they presumably already have all members' published books in the format required by Search Inside. Does anyone else support an approach to Ted with such a request?
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My problem is this: If YWO is the publisher, and I provide, independently of them the pdf for the Search Inside, is this going to interfere with who amazon turns to for things such as reordering the book? I would support paying more to YWO to organise this as part of the publishing process. It seems to me that the publisher is the natural choice for who should do this. Andrew
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Quote: awrigley, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 15:47My problem is this: If YWO is the publisher, and I provide, independently of them the pdf for the Search Inside, is this going to interfere with who amazon turns to for things such as reordering the book? I don't see why it should. Their POD source is Lightning Source UK. You might have to do your own marketing in the POD game, but they won't expect you to print the books. Will they? Anyway, if you provided the pdf for YWO, just send it to Amazon through their system. It costs nowt. AG
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That's fine if you have the software to create a pdf in the form that amazon requires (which is very specific - it's not just any old pdf) and if you know how to do the book marking thing. Not having either the know-how or the software (which is quite expensive, I believe) I submitted both my books to YWO/New Generation as Word files, with the covers as jpegs. Presumably someone at YWO or Lightning Source converted them to pdfs, and I'd be happy to pay a fee to have those sent to "Search Inside" with the required bookmarks, etc. I have great admiration for people who can do these things for themselves, but I believe there's quite a number of us YWO members who just haven't a clue. I suppose we could all Go On A Course; but if it takes an expert like Antony two whole days to sort out a Search Inside submission, then what hope for the technologically incompetent? If it only it were an option, I'd much rather spend my time writing, and pay YWO or Lightning Source to do the tecky stuff for me.
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Quote: Athene, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 18:51 if it takes an expert like Antony two whole days to sort out a Search Inside submission, then what hope for the technologically incompetent? Athene, The 2 days refers to the time taken for a couple of back-and-forth emails. Since they were to the USA at amazon.com with the time difference, it isn't surprising. The actual effort took about half an hour. All the programmes (pdf creators) are freely available for nothing and merely replace printer output for file creation. Bookmarking in OpenOffice is a click, and I presumed it showed up on their pdf reader, because it didn't on my free version of Adobe 9. And I learnt as I did it. Honestly with your background (brainwise) it is a lot easier than you fear. Trussssst me. AG.
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Quote: antonygloster, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 19:10 All the programmes (pdf creators) are freely available for nothing and merely replace printer output for file creation. Bookmarking in OpenOffice is a click, and I presumed it showed up on their pdf reader, because it didn't on my free version of Adobe 9. And I learnt as I did it. Honestly with your background (brainwise) it is a lot easier than you fear. Trussssst me. AG.[/quoteBut my computer guru Ted (who set up my website for me) said we'd need the latest adobe software to produce the required form of pdf, and amazon confirmed this when they were trying to persuade me to submit by pdf rather than by hard copy. Ted's existing adobe software won't produce a pdf of the required size (which is why I submitted my books to YWO in Word rather than as pdfs). Trussssst you ... well, your first two sentences above are totally opaque to me  but I suppose I might be able to understand it eventually. However, I kind of feel that's what computer experts are for - so that I don't have to. I spent ages before Christmas trying to put the contents of my address book onto sticky labels to make sending cards quicker and easier. After wasting half a day without success, I emailed the whole lot to my ex-secretary, and she sorted it out in fifteen minutes flat.
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Quote: Athene, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 20:02But my computer guru Ted (who set up my website for me) said we'd need the latest adobe software to produce the required form of pdf Shows you can never trust a computer guru. I took the simple OpenOffice file which I'd justified, headed and footed and so forth, to get the book pages I wanted. (Same as you do with Word, only it's an open source program, therefore free, but works as well as Word) and exported it as a pdf file, (ie same as Save, only in pdf form - one click on the menu) once I'd added the jpg front and back covers by inserting their files at front and back of doc. It was that simple. Amazon accepted it straight away. Incidentally the internet site www.antonygloster.com was set up in about an hour, and I knew practically nothing about how to do that, also using free programs, and I spent twelve quid for the domain.name. Anybody with a will and imagination can do it. As a writer, you've got both to spare. Go for it! Happy New Year. AG
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Not sure about going for it ... but I'll certainly ask my computer guru to take another look. Many thanks, and a very happy new year to you! Athene
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Quote: antonygloster, Thursday, 31 Dec 2009 09:33In the case of 'Appearances', the setting up the Search Inside the Book (SIBT) facility at amazon.com was the quickest and easiest operation of the whole publishing process... I have emailed amazon.co.uk to see if I have to submit separately to them for SITB. Visit our group at www.antonygloster.com. AG – for Melodie H. Connall Just an update. Amazon.co.uk merely required a confirmation of the ISBN number and applied the Look Inside feature from the US submission. I did nothing futher. Have a look. AG
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