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JohnnyVee
 06 Mar 2008, 01:36 #28661 Reply To Post
Help needed from across the pond please…

I'm researching for my latest novel which is set in the Florida Everglades.

Now I love the Boondocks - great word - the Boonies! -

(I’m waiting for my copy of Arizona Boonies to arrive) - but my protagonist was born and lives in a part of the Everglades where cousins are there for marrying and teeth are for opening beer.



My question is - would this area be referred to as the Boonies? Seen as the Boonies generally refers to a dry bush area and the Everglades is 90% swamp it’s probably unlikely - so what would the locals call it?

Also - Americanisms - tickety boo! - How does that translate? Hunky Dory maybe?

thank you
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Be gaudy.— Nick Poole
Texan
 06 Mar 2008, 02:32 #28663 Reply To Post
I'm not from Florida, but I'm under the impression that any area of wilderness could be referred to as the boonies and be understood by most people.
Texan.
JohnnyVee
 06 Mar 2008, 02:47 #28664 Reply To Post
Quote: Texan, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 02:32
I'm not from Florida, but I'm under the impression that any area of wilderness could be referred to as the boonies and be understood by most people.
Texan.


Texan that sounds promising!

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plumboz
 06 Mar 2008, 02:51 #28665 Reply To Post
Johnny,

Florida, the state in which the Everglades can be found, certainly has more than its fair share of eccentrics and loonies (check out the novels by Carl Hiassen, Tim Dorsey and Dave Barry, those guys, especially Hiassen, mine that particular motherlode spectacularly well), but I don't think you're going to find much in the way of cousin marrying activity. Trailer trash in parts of Florida, yes, but not the sort of in-breeding that is usually associated with the more remote parts of the Ozarks and Appalachians.

And remember, if you are thinking of putting people in the actual Everglades, that it is a National Park and not a place where undereducated humans are allowed to take up residence.

As for hunky dory, here is how that phrase of satisfaction would be used:

"Hey, Travis." Bubba hauled himself on to the bar stool next to his friend and, after taking a moment to adjust his constitution with a sonorous fart, said, "How's the new job at the gravel pit?"

"Hunky dory, Bubba," said Travis."The boss lets us spit wherever we want. Best job I ever had."

"Dang," said Bubba enviously. "That is hunky dory."

"Yep," said Travis. He lifted his left cheek, the one away from his best buddy, and executed his own equally vibratory toot. "Perty dang hunky dory."

JohnnyVee
 06 Mar 2008, 03:03 #28667 Reply To Post
Quote: plumboz, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 02:51
Johnny,

Florida, the state in which the Everglades can be found, certainly has more than its fair share of eccentrics and loonies (check out the novels by Carl Hiassen, Tim Dorsey and Dave Barry, those guys, especially Hiassen, mine that particular motherlode spectacularly well), but I don't think you're going to find much in the way of cousin marrying activity. Trailer trash in parts of Florida, yes, but not the sort of in-breeding that is usually associated with the more remote parts of the Ozarks and Appalachians.

And remember, if you are thinking of putting people in the actual Everglades, that it is a National Park and not a place where undereducated humans are allowed to take up residence.

As for hunky dory, here is how that phrase of satisfaction would be used:

"Hey, Travis." Bubba hauled himself on to the bar stool next to his friend and, after taking a moment to adjust his constitution with a sonorous fart, said, "How's the new job at the gravel pit?"

"Hunky dory, Bubba," said Travis."The boss lets us spit wherever we want. Best job I ever had."

"Dang," said Bubba enviously. "That is hunky dory."

"Yep," said Travis. He lifted his left cheek, the one away from his best buddy, and executed his own equally vibratory toot. "Perty dang hunky dory."



heehee (or should that be hawhaw?) - that's fantastic plum!
why are farts always so funny? why?

I've spent some time in the everglades. Driven its entirety, rode the airboats, spotted the coons etc.
On the outskirts of the National Park area (ie close to Aligator Alley) there are a lot of small communities of dungaree wearing yokels. Their homes are not quite trailers but as close to as could be. This is where my guy lives. So one part of my Q you didn't answer - would this be called the boonies?

Thanks Alan - great writing! I love a good fart guffaw!

for the book tips too!
my website

bookwormbitches.com

Be gaudy.— Nick Poole
plumboz
 06 Mar 2008, 03:14 #28668 Reply To Post
The word "boonies" conjures a feeling of remoteness. So it isn't just where ramshackle is the building code of the day, it's physically Removed From Civilization, with the definition of civilization being of the broadest, most generous sort. So in other words, if a person lives 25 miles from the nearest WalMart (Tesco), Starbucks, shopping mall or 38 screen movie megaplex, and especially if the nearest neighbor was far enough to allow rifle practice out behind the house without disturbing anyone but the wildlife, he would be said to live in the boonies.

Sounds like you've got what you need to describe the environment. That's great. And yes, check out Hiassen. Particularly recommended for you would be "Nature Girl".

JohnnyVee
 06 Mar 2008, 03:19 #28669 Reply To Post
Quote: plumboz, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 03:14
The word "boonies" conjures a feeling of remoteness. So it isn't just where ramshackle is the building code of the day, it's physically Removed From Civilization, with the definition of civilization being of the broadest, most generous sort. So in other words, if a person lives 25 miles from the nearest WalMart (Tesco), Starbucks, shopping mall or 38 screen movie megaplex, and especially if the nearest neighbor was far enough to allow rifle practice out behind the house without disturbing anyone but the wildlife, he would be said to live in the boonies.

Sounds like you've got what you need to describe the environment. That's great. And yes, check out Hiassen. Particularly recommended for you would be "Nature Girl".



Fantastic!
All duly noted Alan!
I appreciate your help - cheers!
my website

bookwormbitches.com

Be gaudy.— Nick Poole
JohnnyVee
 06 Mar 2008, 03:30 #28671 Reply To Post
Quote: plumboz, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 03:14
The word

" And yes, check out Hiassen. Particularly recommended for you would be "Nature Girl".



bought and paid for already! - ahh the wonders of the web
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plumboz
 06 Mar 2008, 14:03 #28686 Reply To Post
Quote: JohnnyVee, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 03:03

heehee (or should that be hawhaw?) - that's fantastic plum!
why are farts always so funny? why?

I've spent some time in the everglades. Driven its entirety, rode the airboats, spotted the coons etc.
On the outskirts of the National Park area (ie close to Aligator Alley) there are a lot of small communities of dungaree wearing yokels. Their homes are not quite trailers but as close to as could be. This is where my guy lives. So one part of my Q you didn't answer - would this be called the boonies?

Thanks Alan - great writing! I love a good fart guffaw!

for the book tips too!



Johnny,

You are right about farts. Something magical about them, isn't there? I am personally convinced that the reason one of my entries here hasn't done as well as I hoped is because all of the gas passing happens after the first 10,000 words. A strategic mistake on my part. If I can rearrange the introduction of characters to get my flatulent buddy in there sooner I am sure the scores (at least from the guys on the site) will skyrocket.

Lesson: Toots, dead bodies and hot sex should show up as early as possible in a narrative to capture reader interest. If a choice has to be made, opt for the methane production every time.

Oh, and a cute dog helps too.

Just don't make the dog the farter. He can be unjustly blamed, but that just increases both the dog's appeal and the human's ridiculousness.

Best,
Alan



JohnnyVee
 07 Mar 2008, 00:33 #28775 Reply To Post
Quote: plumboz, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 14:03
Quote: JohnnyVee, Thursday, 6 Mar 2008 03:03

heehee (or should that be hawhaw?) - that's fantastic plum!
why are farts always so funny? why?




Johnny,

You are right about farts. Something magical about them, isn't there?

Lesson: Toots, dead bodies and hot sex should show up as early as possible in a narrative to capture reader interest. If a choice has to be made, opt for the methane production every time.

Best,
Alan





Very true! But it may be wise not to have the dead bodies, sex, and farting all in the same scene! :omg:
my website

bookwormbitches.com

Be gaudy.— Nick Poole
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